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Tortuga!!! The wonderful city of Sex, Booze and G.R.O.S.S. Pirates.
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I agree with you Captain, I think that those that are founders should remain and those that you mentioned should remain. And agree with the 10 you think should be removed. 
Nice seen Gerakken the mighty pirate of the Sea of Booze back in action again.
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As to matching the diplos policy, I think definitely not. Theirs is a feel good policy for advertising purposes only and they never intend to actually jettison anyone. I mean all you have to do to stay active is email one time in a three month period, or post one, or post once on one of their many different boards. Really. Should one post (no submissions) in a 3 month timeframe count as active? Heck no!!! That's definitely one for advertisement only. Now obviously if R/l intervenes, we need to make exceptions, But if we do adopt a formal policy on activity, I think we should do it for real rather than for fake. Just my thoughts.
          
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You got my support on that.
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Hey Gerraken. Congrats on your recent promotion to the meta Admiralty!!!!!!
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This is just a post in defense of our motives. I don't mean to offend, just want to have my two cents for myself and my friends.
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Of course it is advertising, the fact that you are even considering it means that it has an effect on others. Many people complain of inactive empires eating up the Metaverse, not letting the new blood rise to the top. So we are trying our best to make ourselves known, so we don't turn into something like the Euros, no offense to them. We did this to ourselves, we want to implement it.
We would have done it as of Sunday morning here, but DW, the only person we have agreed to dismiss the members, is completely inconvienced. If you want more info, check the Diplo thread, it explains it in the second to last post at the time this was being written. Granted, we are due to dismiss a fifth of the empire, and it may be a the lowest part, but that is because they haven't been around. If others stop showing up, we will remove them too.
On our policy, we have made it harder since of those members due for not too far off termination posted a game, we decided to make them more precise, and harder to achieve. Something like two games a month now, or posting on our forums. The e-mail thing is gone. This isn't on the site, because anything official goes on the site, and that is done by DW, see reasons above. Also, I do the warning, and I am keeping track of the dates. We plan to do this. RL is of course allowing for exemptions, we have one member out for that as well.
Please, if you disagree with us, feel free to tell us, but do it to our faces, not kinda off to the side. We do consider others opinions to our actions, but we don't enjoy being insulted off to the side. I doubt anyone does.
Thanks for the time to read this. I am not trying to start a fight. Just trying to defend ourselves.
VoT
Brief Edit: Just got a message that for a one time thing, I will remove the absent members. So it is done. We will carry out.
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Um, Jack, I know we've had our differences over the last year, but I think we still respect each other. Y'all realize if they DO carry through and start cutting people, you'll have to eat crow on that statement.
GROSS is one of the strongest of the old empires, but you have a ton of players who make my game posting schedule look current, who also haven't come up with a Forum post in 9 months or more. To make a cut "real" and not "for fake" you'd need to cut pretty deep. Even with exceptions for the immortal Staffa and (shudder) the ever-absent Coffeedragon, that's a lot of weight off the old survey ship. And if you're not willing to cut that far, isn't the attitude towards the Diplos a wee bit harsh?
Hey, your empire, your rules (or lack thereof). But slinging mud is only going to warn off your targets before you can lull them into Death Ray Zorcher range.
P.S. You're welcome to round up Gerakken and Kit - if you can sober him up - and stop off at the SF tavern anytime for a round or two. Quack still has the digital masters of his Wookiee porn collection, if you need more ammo against those pesky Jedi.
P.P.S. While composing, I note that my thunder has been stolen by one of those annoying Diplomats. Arghhh!!! With the double post, don't think you're being jumped on - focus on the offer of free alcohol instead.
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For information: the Diplomats empire has now 16 members. It was 20 before.
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Hah! maybe you should cut me, my last submission cost the empire 40k.     
I dont know the history behind the empire besides rampant pillaging but founding members probably should stay.
As for who should go or stay that is why we have an Emperor. If you are not happy with cutting people then dont as your are our despot leader.
If we the plebs are not happy we will either:
1. discuss it with you,
2. rebel,
3. lure you into a dark place and deal with you.
 
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sound's like iz missed something!
what's go'n on ????????? 
  
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just discussing negotiation techniques
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| Hah! maybe you should cut me, my last submission cost the empire 40k. |
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As you have personnaly gained 5K in your latest submission, it is just the recalc on all members that have cost 40K to the empire. Anyone in you empire who will made the first submission in a day will provoke this. It just happen to be you.
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I lost 25k on my personal record with my submission today. 
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He, he, he, he!!!!! 
We will give you the black mote if you don't surrender the booty!!!! The loot is ours. So give it or die for it.
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Never-Never, glad to see you again around, no much you missed, just talking about those players with zero score, to see if we can cast them aside.
Also I want to use this moment to propose Never-Never for Senator!!!!
Ps: it is going to cost you couple of shipments of Altarian whiskey. No, is not for consuming or for drinking is for an extra boost on my warpoengines.
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| Um, Jack, I know we've had our differences over the last year, but I think we still respect each other. Y'all realize if they DO carry through and start cutting people, you'll have to eat crow on that statement. |
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Not really. I stated I don't think a policy of 1 submission, or 1 post in a thread, or 1 email every three months is for real. It has nothing to do with whether or not anyone is actually cut. With all due respect, your argument does not hold logical merit.
| GROSS is one of the strongest of the old empires, but you have a ton of players who make my game posting schedule look current, who also haven't come up with a Forum post in 9 months or more. To make a cut "real" and not "for fake" you'd need to cut pretty deep. Even with exceptions for the immortal Staffa and (shudder) the ever-absent Coffeedragon, that's a lot of weight off the old survey ship. And if you're not willing to cut that far, isn't the attitude towards the Diplos a wee bit harsh? |
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Actually that's what we are discussing. If we're going to have a cut policy at all, it's got to cut deep, or it's no activity policy at all in my opinion. Others in G.R.O.S.S. may differ. If we are going to have an activity policy and the goal is to only have truly active members, then it's going to cut deep. Right. Or not at all. Nothing half baked. No fence straddling.
And on the other hand, they joined an empire with no cut policy at all. Part of our heritage is we have no stinking rules. So were hashing over what's fair to them. But if we decide on such an activity policy, and we are still mulling it over, It's going to cut deep, not just cosmetically. We don't do anything half baked here.
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I personally do not have an account over on your site. So that is impossible now isn't it? Besides, this is our thread. It is we who are debating a policy change for us. It's appropriate to post what we think of such a change right here. It has nothing to do with you. Yours is the only example of such a policy available. Hence, I posted my thoughts on its merits.
Now My opinion might not win out. I sense most just want to jettison some of the overly inactive zero scores and go on that way. If I'm outvoted, and right now it looks like I'm outvoted, we'll go that way.
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Ok. I want all your Final thoughts on the matter do we
1. Jettison no one.
2. Jettison the Zero's and some of the non-active low scores, and keep doing so as members activity wanes?
3. Adopt a staunch activity policy?
Jackey Jackey. We've always been an empire that hashes things out. I've always done what the membership wished rather than impose my own dictatorial powers on the subject.
Welcome back Never-Never!!!
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Renegade, Never-Never, and Jackey Jackey have been added to the senate all meeting the requirements.
Svalin has been deleted from the senate for inactivity. If you come back, you'll be put back.
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I will say that the first step will be to jettison those with zero scores and then go from there. Sort of put an announcement letting those with low score and inactive to know that after (period of time) they are going to be removed.
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I will say that the first group shall be defined from RXDOC down. If any of them is one of the founders then leave them alone.
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I think that this group totals 10 players.
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| Y'all realize if they DO carry through and start cutting people, you'll have to eat crow on that statement. |
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| Not really. I stated I don't think a policy of 1 submission, or 1 post in a thread, or 1 email every three months is for real. It has nothing to do with whether or not anyone is actually cut. With all due respect, your argument does not hold logical merit. |
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Sorry for the intrusion. I thought that your blanket statement that the Diplos never intended to jettison anyone (which they now have) was a clear reference to cutting players, instead of a philosophical treatise on the definition of the word "active." Hence my obviously flawed logic!
Bill Clinton just called; he's still looking for a definition for the word "is." Any suggestions?
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