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Do you still think GalCiv 1 is fun even with GalCiv II out?
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Empires so tiny there not even ranked
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by Citizen Cliffracer Slayer - 2/1/2004 4:29:06 AM

Looking through the list of empires I've noticed eight out of the twenty pages are full of empires that have no rank at all because nobody has submitted any games for them. I think that there emporers have all lost interest in the game and that any empire with no games submitted after say... three months should be wiped from existance as useless metaverse litter.

            
#1  by Citizen Wild Wombat - 2/1/2004 6:30:28 AM

I would tend to agree, if only for neatness. Although, given their presence is never going to affect the active empires and their scoring, I think it really is only a neatness factor. Mostly these will be players who signed on early after the first release and lost interest. It would be interesting to see what most foliks thought would be an appropriate time interval before 'liquidating' them; witness the effect of the recent recalc. Do we liquidate PLAYERS who haven't been around for six months, or just those old empires. One senses there is a fair amount of dead wood lurking out there....

                          
#2  by Citizen damoose - 2/1/2004 8:54:53 AM

Dead... As in UnDead or Dead as in nolonger living, growing or striving?

I agree however, it is a neatness factor. 6 months for an Empire 12 months for a player that has never submitted, or 3 months after thier score has been retuced to 0 through decay.

                      
#3  by Veteran Aldar - 2/1/2004 1:17:55 PM

I think we should leave as is. Doesn't hurt anything and perhaps some of them will return.

                          
#4  by Citizen KEmperor - 2/1/2004 2:00:51 PM

Well, I dont think any people's accounts should be deleted, but all those empires with no scores that have been around for a while must eat up server space. If they are more than a few months old they probably should be deleted.

                      
#5  by Citizen oldgamster - 2/1/2004 2:03:05 PM

Hey All,

First off Grats on the new Empires Board...

My thought is "Clean it up"!!! I am relatively new to this game. I thought the game was cool enough on its own but then I discovered the Metaverse and thought that it was a very nice addition. But then when I submit a game and start scrolling through hundreds and hundreds of dead just to find myself I thought man there needs to be a limit to how long dead info should remain.

So what I suggest would be a marker on each account that can be ran off a timer. Every time a player submits a game or even logs into the forum the counter would be reset and they would remain "Active". If the time counts down to a predetermined mark the the account and all its data is set to "Inactive" and is not displayed in the metaverse. The reason I would liek the timer is that during warm weather I do a lot of travelling and there may be weeks or months I don't get on a pc. But at the same time I would like to think that when I would get back and log in or submit a new game that I would not go back to square 1...

Just some thoughts. I know it would be some work for the folks that built and maintain the metaverse to put something like this into use but thought I would like to put it out there any way.

Later,
oldgamster
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#6  by Citizen Cliffracer Slayer - 2/1/2004 3:13:46 PM

You can use the search function to find yourself.

            
#7  by Citizen KitWarrior - 2/2/2004 9:01:23 AM

I disappeared for almost five months and appreciated finding my scores still somewhere in the Meta. If I had instead come back after six months and found my scores deleted, bye-bye GalCiv. Now if the suggestion is to keep the “dead” scores off the Meta rankings while keeping them saved somewhere, that doesn’t address the “takes up space” issue very well. It does, however, move newbies past a lot of inactivity while keeping the door open for old-timers.

                      
#8  by Veteran Disciple777 - 2/2/2004 11:51:15 AM

I think that the record of the players should be kept, but I agree that the dead empire, those without a submission for the last 6 months should be deleted.

      
#9  by Citizen PJ_ - 2/2/2004 12:41:57 PM

Like the Stardockians empire, which has never had a submission since it was formed last March?



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#10  by Citizen KEmperor - 2/2/2004 1:25:16 PM

Well, the stardockians are a special case.

                      
#11  by Citizen KitWarrior - 2/2/2004 3:01:11 PM

Like the Stardockians empire, which has never had a submission since it was formed last March?


DEAR LORD!!! You have no idea what you've just brought down on yourself! Consider yourself a marked overlord and stay 10 SECTORS away from me at all times!!!



                      
#12  by Veteran Theoden of Rohan - 2/2/2004 3:11:37 PM

Hmmm...it certainly wouldn't be advisable to ask Stardock to delete the Stardockians empire.

                          
#13  by Citizen Cliffracer Slayer - 2/2/2004 3:15:04 PM

Sorry, I don't think any empire that has scores attatched to should ever be deleted, just those empires that don't have a metaverse ranking, the ones this post is devoted to. Someone who hasn't submitted a game for their empire ever has definattly lost interest in the game and won't really miss there empire.

            
#14  by Veteran Icho Tolot - 2/2/2004 3:16:47 PM

DEAR LORD!!! You have no idea what you've just brought down on yourself! Consider yourself a marked overlord and stay 10 SECTORS away from me at all times!!!


wold be healthy for all of us, indeed

                          
#15  by Citizen Wild Wombat - 2/2/2004 4:50:51 PM

Sorry, I don't think any empire that has scores attatched to should ever be deleted, just those empires that don't have a metaverse ranking, the ones this post is devoted to.


Ahhh Goblin - sorry I'm guilty of not reading your post properly; your suggestion of deleting ZERO SCORE empires only is very sensible. The time frame is thus irrelevant.

                          
#16  by Citizen Bill Ko - 2/2/2004 8:39:04 PM

You can use the search function to find yourself.


Or any convenient religion...

Bill



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#17  by Veteran Grand_Admiral_Thrawn - 2/3/2004 12:06:24 AM

So what I suggest would be a marker on each account that can be ran off a timer. Every time a player submits a game or even logs into the forum the counter would be reset and they would remain "Active". If the time counts down to a predetermined mark the the account and all its data is set to "Inactive" and is not displayed in the metaverse. The reason I would liek the timer is that during warm weather I do a lot of travelling and there may be weeks or months I don't get on a pc. But at the same time I would like to think that when I would get back and log in or submit a new game that I would not go back to square 1...


This is a pretty good idea he has here. Start it sometime, and anyone who has not submitted in three months, "temporarily" deactivate them, so start at around 11/03 for this. When they submit a game again, give them a message such as "Due to your inactivity and to encourage competition, your score was temporarily removed from the metaverse. Your score will be reactivated at the soonest possible time to reflect your new submission." or something like that (Diplomat style!) This way new players, such as my self would not have to go up thousands of spots (I jumped nearly a ~1000 spots by adding ~6500 points) to become a well known name in the metaverse. This way the active are at the top, and the inactive wallow in the server awaiting the visits of their masters. This would also cause significant damage to the empire lists (and something similar could be done for that) and this might require even more recalc (and we are still reeling from that). Thanks for reading this rather long post. Anyone can build off this if they wish.

                      
#18  by Citizen Hurley - 2/3/2004 12:28:30 AM

metaverse litter


Is this some new name for wombat offspring????

                      
#19  by Citizen Cliffracer Slayer - 2/3/2004 4:36:04 PM


Very funny!!!!!!

            
#20  by Citizen Wild Wombat - 2/3/2004 6:41:01 PM

Is this some new name for wombat offspring????


And hey - there's nothing useless about my litter(s), either!

                          
#21  by Citizen Sirian - 2/4/2004 1:45:01 AM

I second Aldar's thought.

                        
#22  by Citizen amulekbird - 2/9/2004 5:22:55 PM

Like the Stardockians empire, which has never had a submission since it was formed last March?


I asked Cari about this and she responded:
http://www.galciv.com/forum.asp?BID=GF&id=132094#133304 Link

                          
#23  by Citizen KEmperor - 2/10/2004 2:10:05 AM

Interesting

                      
#24  by Veteran never-never - 2/10/2004 10:00:05 PM

yET gOT mE ok tOO dO tHAT

                        
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