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Empire Recruiting in the Galactic Forum
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| I believe that separating Empire business into its own forum is best for the community. There hasn't BEEN much of a general forum anyway. |
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Which begs the question, just exactly what kind of "community" do we want in the main forums for prospective buyers to see? Bug reports and questions, or an activly engaged group of players separated into empires? We have an unprecidented level of online involvement in an offline game which really makes one look favorably upon a game. Our active online community is made up of Empires and their warlords... I think it would be an egregious mistake to let that sink into the metaverse abyss...............
My thoughts
       
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| Which begs the question, just exactly what kind of "community" do we want in the main forums for prospective buyers to see? Bug reports and questions, or an activly engaged group of players separated into empires? We have an unprecidented level of online involvement in an offline game which really makes one look favorably upon a game. Our active online community is made up of Empires and their warlords... I think it would be an egregious mistake to let that sink into the metaverse abyss............... |
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I think this is an excellent point, and would endorse it strongly. As I've said, I can see the rationale behind the creation of a dedicated forum, and am happy to go along and support the concept, but I still retain some concerns about what it might do to the nature of participation and the quality of the community. Let's all keep close eye on how we feel about how things are going and share observations on this. 
       
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| Which begs the question, just exactly what kind of "community" do we want in the main forums for prospective buyers to see? Bug reports and questions, or an activly engaged group of players separated into empires? We have an unprecidented level of online involvement in an offline game which really makes one look favorably upon a game. Our active online community is made up of Empires and their warlords... I think it would be an egregious mistake to let that sink into the metaverse abyss...............My thoughts |
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Spot on..
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Exar: try this. Comments are welcomed. I wrote this presuming I was writing to a COMPLETE newbie, hence the slight long-windedness of some descriptions and the gentle tone, so bear with that.
Suggested thread title: "What are Empires all about?"
Welcome to the Empires of Galactic Civilisations!
We hope you've just become a proud owner of this fantastic strategy game - this thread is going to open up a whole new way for you to enjoy Galactic Civilisations (GalCiv). So...you've bought the game, registered it on this website and perhaps played a game or two. Maybe you've managed to log a game on the Metaverse, and seen your name up in lights, showing your score on the Metaverse players table. If you haven't seen that, just click on the "Metaverse" tab at the top of the screen - it'll take you right there.
GalCiv is a single player game, but Stardock and the Metaverse provide another way for us to enjoy a group gaming experience: by joining an Empire! Empires are teams of players that agree to belong together as a unit. Their individual Metaverse scores are combined to produce a total "Empire" score, which is then recorded on a seperate Empire table. If you're checking out the individual players' Metaverse table, look at the tabs on the left hand side of the screen - click the "Top Empires" tab, and you'll get to see the empires in their struggle for ascendancy. It's important to know that belonging to an Empire doesn't rob you of the chance for personal glory, by the way - your score as an individual always appears on the players table, whether you're in an empire or not. Belonging to an Empire is a free added bonus to your enjoyment of Galactic Civilisations!
If you've looked at the Empires' table, you'll see a wide range of opportunities await you. Some of our empires are based around popular movie or book themes (Jedi Republic, Fellowship of the Ring), some are based on geographic locations (European, ANZAC and Canadian Empires), others have developed their own specific theme (Special Forces, Get Rid Of Slimy Aliens) and some groups base their empire on only allowing members who follow set alignments (the Evil empire) or agree to abide by an existing code of gameplay conduct (Realms Beyond).
Empires tend to collect groups of like-minded people who feel a mutual attraction for the theme as a basis for working together. That's where the fun starts! Your own game submissions add to your Empire's score as you strive to make your Empire the Number One outfit, although it's not all about being at the top of the tree. The Empire threads contain general advice, gaming tips and friendly discussion on practically any issue the members want to talk about, whether it relates to the game or not. Help with your gaming problems is never more than a post away. Of course, you'll probably also find the odd comment from your rival empires about your progress...or lack of it. Firm friendships are forged in and between the Empires and we find this adds greatly to our enjoyment of the game.
Oh, and you can always satify that rugged individual streak...and create your OWN empire! Even if...it's an empire of one, at least to begin with. Playing in a team, sharing stories and opinions and interacting with friendly rivals really opens up a rich new gaming experience.
Our advice is to head into the "Empires" Forum (click the tab on the left) and cruise through some of the empire-specific threads. You'll get to see them in action, get a feel for the sort of people who hang out there, what goes on and a taste of what empiring is all about. Post and say hello - we don't bite and it's obligation-free.
Joining an empire or making your own is pretty straightforward. Head to the Empires Metaverse table and if you're not already in an empire, you'll see a "Create Empire" button. Click, type in your name, motto and have a 32x32 jpg symbol to upload, and your personal juggernaut is ready to roll. If you have problems, post in the Empires thread - we'll help out. If you want to join an existing empire, click on that empire's name in the Metaverse table. This will bring up a list of all the empire's current members, and you should see a "Join Empire" button at the bottom of the page. Click, and you're in!
Empires are of two types:
Open - which means anyone can join whenever they want.
Invite-only - in which case you'll see a "Request to Join" button, rather than a "Join Empire" button. Clicking this sends an email message to that empire's emperor, who will then arrange for your admission.
If you're thinking of joining an existing empire, it's probably worth checking out their thread and saying hello to the current members before you join - but this isn't compulsory, it's just polite. It's worth knowing that you can leave an empire (of either type) at ANY time, just by going to that empire's screen and clicking the "Quit Empire" button you'll see there. Joining and leaving empires does not affect your individual Metaverse score in any way.
So...have we tempted you? Wanna come and have some fun? Many of the active empires have included recruitment messages that follow this introductory post. Take a look and come over to the Empires Forum, cruise our threads, stop in and say hello - we're nice people...and WE LOVE NEW RECRUITS!
Wild Wombat (Emperor, Special Forces)
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by Senator CariElf - 2/3/2004 1:00:52 PM
Very nice. I think that about covers it. Anyone else want to comment before I move it to the other forum?
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The Jedi Republic will be keeping track of new recruits useing the new meathod of a single thread. We pledge to honor the terms of the recruitment ban until a level of effectivness can be determined. A quota has been set at 2 recruits for the month. If this is not reached by March 1st, we in the council will reconsider our participation in the treaty.
Master Yoda
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Just remember, Yoda, the Kent Convention on Recruitment Threads has been ratified by the United Empires. If you violate any article of the Kent Convention, the Galactic Council could condemn your actions as a threat to collective security. Worse still, a coalition may be called upon to forcibly halt your empire's actions.
KitWarrior, Assistant Undersecretary of Imperial Affairs
(signatures seem to be the latest fad  )
   
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| The Jedi Republic will be keeping track of new recruits useing the new meathod of a single thread. We pledge to honor the terms of the recruitment ban until a level of effectivness can be determined. A quota has been set at 2 recruits for the month. If this is not reached by March 1st, we in the council will reconsider our participation in the treaty. |
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 I don't think there is any recruitment "ban". Is this serious? I thought the idea was only to post recruitment stuff in THIS dedicated forum, rather than spam up the standard forum. The sticky that Exar and CariElf have organised is just to direct newbies over here to look - I thought you could do any amount of recuiting IN THIS EMPIRES FORUM that you wanted to?
Now, if it is a joke: I don't think the fact that no one wants to join the Jedi necessarily indicates a failure of the system 
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Emperor Wombat,
Under Article 1 of the Kent Convention, the ban on recruitment threads is limited to the Galactic Forum. As far as your comment about Jedi recruitment, it has been duly noted in the United Empires' Galactic Records. Thus, should the Jedi Republic file a grievance against your empire, your comment is now permissible evidence of malicious irreverence.
KitWarrior, Assistant Undersecretary of Imperial Affairs
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Malicious irreverance....mmmmmm..... 
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RING-RING-RING RING-RING-RING
Kit: “Hello?”
Wombie: “Hello! Can I speak to Mr. Pot please?”
Kit: “Which Mr. Pot do you wish to speak with?”
Wombie: “Black Pot.”
Kit: “This is him. May I ask who I’m talking to?”
Wombie: “This is Mr. Kettle, Black Kettle.”
Kit: “How can I help you, Mr. Kettle?”
Wombie: “Actually, Mr. Pot, I’m just returning your call.”
KitWarrior, Assistant Undersecretary of Imperial Affairs
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There is, to the best of my lack of knowledge, no enforced ban on recruitment threads in the Galactic Forum. Many of those who requested the Empires forum did so because, from their perspective, the heavy empire traffic was drowning out questions. There were also those who were fed up with recruitment pitches in question threads. As Cari has indicated, the explicit intent of the Empires forum is not to resolve those issues. It has been my impression, however, that the implicit intent is to indeed resolve, at least in part, those issues.
Leaving aside the matter of recruitment within a question thread and the matter of empire communication threads within the Galactic Forum, for these are not the issues addressed by this thread, let us turn to the intent of the SSRT. The purpose of that thread is to inform players about participation in an empire and clearly it is also intended to do away with recruitment threads within the Galactic Forum. If this second point was not the case, how has Spellforce's original post for this thread been reconciled?
I stake no position for or against the SSRT with these statements. I am simply trying to clarify the norms which we are attempting to establish. What I am left with is one question about recruitment threads:
Are we or are we not discouraging separate recruitment threads in the Galactic Forum?
Returning to the other related issues:
Are we going to discourage empire communication threads in the Galactic Forum? If not, why do we have the Empires forum?
Are we discouraging counter recruitment posts, for these are the ones that are often off topic and thus irk people, within question threads?
KitWarrior, Assistant Undersecretary of Imperial Affairs
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| There is no ban on recruitment, the only consensus that we came to was to make a sticky on the galactic forum for recruiting and to allow recruitment in the main forum if you were answering a question and in your own empire thread, as far as I am aware. |
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This is where I was uncertain. The way I read the proposal, it was a ban on ALL recruitment ANYWHERE in the Galactic Forum, and relegated us to the new Empires page for all our recruitment efforts. There was talk about allowing recruitment banter AFTER a question was answered, but it was never really decided upon as far as I can see. What I am concerned with is a lack of presense on the main forum, as if someone shopping for an Empire, or just mindlessly joining one, is going to go for the one he/she can learn the most about. This is where the "Single post only" rule, which is the whole point of this agreement, to do away with Empire "Clutter" on the main forum comes into play. So I guess under that definition I am opposed to the "ban". That is the agreement I believe the council voted we would try, and under those cercumstances do I place my quota.
Spellforce, if I've understood your original intention incorrectly, please explain it to me the way you see it. Otherwise I think I understand it as:
One post in a stickied thread to direct people to the Empire forum
No recruitment threads in the MAIN forum
Communication threads are discouraged in the main forum- (the part I take issue with)
Answering questions followed by a recruitment slogan is undecided upon
Master Yoda
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hmmm.... Am I the only emperor who isn't still recruiting and refraining from writting StarFleet Communiquea's in the main forum.. ???
I like the idea of one recruitment sticky .. however is needs to be better named so that new ppl know where it is.. rather like "Join an empire" rather than what its called at the moment
Is there anyway to move existing msgs in the main forum to the Empires forum ???
   
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Hello...... I have already added my recruitment msg to Cari's Sticky...
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| Am I the only emperor who isn't still recruiting and refraining from writting StarFleet Communiquea's in the main forum.. ??? |
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No, you're not J.T. - jsut to reassure you, I presume that's the way it's supposed to work for now. We add one post per empire to Exar's sticky in the main forum, and otherwise we leave it alone (for recruiting). Here in THIS Empires forum, we post what we like.
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its not Exar's sticky its Cari's heres the link..
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(I noticed that this was the only sticky in the main forum where empires have been doing it.. so I added mine to it.. I still recomend a name change for the Sticky to "Want to Join an empire? then look here" or something like that as opposed to "What are Empires All About?"
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Just pretend, as you read this, that I am saying this in a very level, calm voice. Despite agreeing with this proposal, I find within three days two threads posted by newbies that go back to the same old stuff.
1. In the general forum, a newbie posts asking about trade and influence. ABetterTomorrow and Exar (of all people!!) start up the whole recruitment thing.
2. In the strategies forum, a new poster introduces themselves and Mayito says hello - plus the "here's our empire and our private forum" routine.
I am naming names, not to start flame wars but to point out that I thought we weren't going to do this kind of thing! It's supposed to be an honour system, so how about we abide by it? I mean...we haven't gone three days, for crying out loud!
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