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Mid-West Confederation Communication Thread
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The culture bombing has become a lot harder since the modules add rather than multiply now. So 5 +343 Culture Stars gets you only +~1600 now, instead of something in the millions.
The quick victories are through bribing and a strategy everyone seems to have made their own versions of, including me. Some versions are at Link or Link
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So what's the secret to people winning maso alliance games in an hour? |
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There are several strategies. Look in the Strategies forum. In summary they revolve around increasing your starting position to as high Diplomacy as possible. If you use mods, use the Research, Inc. party. If you don't, use the Populist party. The focus on getting all the wonders you can. After wonders, get Trade Goods. If you have a trade off, take the wonder first. If you loose the trade good, trade for it later. In doing this there are several strategies of which techs to research and then switch to production and produce wonders and tradegoods. You also have to do other prouctions to increase you productivity, etc. In year 2090 you can usually move everyone to friendly. Once there are at friendly, bribe them to close, ally with them all in one turn (else you will get sucked it to war with those you are not allied to). One more turn and you get 60K points and an alliance victory. All in an hour or so. Sometimes it takes a little longer, sometime a little less. It is important that you have a good starting position and that you limit the number of systems you start with so that you have enough bc to get Diplomacy tradegood early. Too many planets and you will have spent too much time conoloizing and the AIs will beat you to the early tradegoods.
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I won my second military conquest victory today. It was in a Gigantic galaxy and was something of a warm-up for my next game, which will also be a Gigantic. I set the AI to cakewalk for it, just to see if I had the patience and the skill to dominate the galaxy without going bankrupt from over-spending. In the end, I've managed to get my highest score ever [10900 Metaverse points. ] whilst simultaneously realizing how completely stupid the Cakewalk AI is. ^^;
I set the map to have either Rare or Uncommon habitable planets since my first Gigantic game had been set to "Abundant" and I hadn't the patience to do much more than wait for a tech victory. I also set stars to "tight clusters", which made an interesting set up. I started on the upper-leftmost cluster, nearly at the top. I colonized my way to another planet downward in the galaxy, then one to the upper-left of Sol. Then I met the Yor, who had two planets in the lower part of the cluster. As soon as I had Transports, I dominated them. Easily.
So I had my star cluster secured. I found the Drengin next in the star cluster to my right. I got every ounce of bc I could get out of them, then conquered them too. Again, easily. Next I discovered the Arceans, further right. I made note of one of their systems, Iris, with a class 26 and decided I'd take them out next. I sent a colony ship to a system called Maia in the mid-galaxy and discovered the Altarians next. They would be my next target, after the Arceans.
It was around this time that I realized how utterly pathetic the AI was at Cakewalk level. I was heading into Battle Cruisers and stuff, and they didn't even have Defenders. Oh well, I decided it'd be easy enough for a warm up. The real challenge for Gigantic -- for me, anyway -- is keeping the patience to actually win something, anyway. I wiped the Arceans out rather easily, then incited a war with the Altarians. Around that time I met my final enemy, the Drath, and an empire they had apparently been harrassing for years, the Torians.
As I destroyed the Altarians, they got a Lucky Ranger which slowed my progress a tad [I made sure to avoid it as much as I could, though], and then the Torians surrendered to the Altarians. I don't get it -- the Drath never even research Impulse Drive and yet they were "destroying" the Torians. And to make matters laughable, the Korx, whom I hadn't even met yet, were bribed to declare war on my by Altaria. After a while, I asked for peace -- even though we'd never even touched one another -- and they accepted, giving me around 30 turns worth of 100 bc...
To make this long, long story short, I eliminated the Altarians after making peace and taking half their planets, then the Korx surrendered to the Drath [who had managed to get defenders. Oh no.], whom I launched an all-out campaign on. I made peace twice and conned them out of four planets or so each time. Then I conquered them. Yay!
Needless to say, that was long, easy...and as boring a game as it gets [note that Abundant Gigantic isn't boring, but frustrating]! No challenge whatsoever, but at least I know I can survive a Gigantic galaxy without immediately heading towards a Beyond Human victory, so my next one will have what I hope to be some kind of challenge along with it. On the upside, I got 10,900 points...but they don't feel earned at all.
And I'm sorry this was so long and probably completely dull to read, I just needed to write this down somewhere. ^^;;
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The mwc website is no more.
I took it offline a few weeks ago. Perhaps I might re-install gc and give it another go...
But that's not likely. Kids, Family, work... Doesn't leave much time anymore.
idle
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This empire seems to be about inactive as all get out...was it always like this? I'm really considering making my own Empire to help revitalize the game for me...
As for the aforementioned topic, Weyrleader, I'll see what I can do. ^_^
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This empire seems to be about inactive as all get out...was it always like this? |
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Unfortunately, most of the empires are going "mostly inactive." And no, the MWC and metaverse community in gerneral was quite active this last spring and as the summer has progressed more people have "retired". Luckily for me, my emperor and one fellow senator are still submitting reasonably frequently. Good luck on what ever you choose to do.
You would be most welcome in the Aldarian Empire.
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You would be most welcome in the Aldarian Empire. |
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I appreciate the offer, but I really think I may make my own empire. Building things from the ground up is something I love, and it'd give me some more drive to play the game than I currently have. Each single game is fun, but even better is when each game is actually a small part of a bigger whole -- like, say, every game is really a fight [economically, socially, militarily, etc.] in a sector/ against local aliens and major and minor empires. It adds to the depth, because it makes each game a chapter in your fledgling empire's history as you struggle to survive in a hostile galaxy.
...yeah, now I am convinced I will start an empire. ^^;;;
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...yeah, now I am convinced I will start an empire. ^^;;; |
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Cool!
As I said "Good Luck"!
Do you have a name/theme in mind?
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I have a name. "Dominion of Garbonia" I think would work -- I like the word "dominion", too. Garbonia being pronounced "gahr-bone-ee-uh", for reference. As for a theme, I'm still working on that. I'm thinking some kind of non-specialized empire, though.
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I'm thinking some kind of non-specialized empire, though. |
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The Guardians started out that way, but everyone who joined had a strong distaste for the Yor. A distaste that borders on pure hatred. That kinda became our theme.
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