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Do you still think GalCiv 1 is fun even with GalCiv II out?
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Raven's Claw (The Galactic Guardians Empire Thread)
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#14625  by Citizen Greldon - 7/20/2004 9:29:07 AM

Good morning Guardians!

Please review my post in the Senate Halls forum regarding new Knights, etc.

I don't know what is going on but I submit games and loose points...apparently I'm better off not submitting at all...at least I won't loose points! It doesn't make much sense to play under these conditions.

                          
#14626  by Citizen Genghis Hank - 7/20/2004 9:34:50 AM

Good Morning Greldon!

I don't know what is going on but I submit games and loose points...apparently I'm better off not submitting at all...at least I won't loose points! It doesn't make much sense to play under these conditions.


Defenantly not a good thing when the Meta discouraged play. Maybe you could ask Peace Pheonix to take a look at your record and figure out if the score loss is a temp or permanent problem. Maybe you just need to get through a month of random score loss on submits before you get going back in the right direction.

                          
#14627  by Citizen Greldon - 7/20/2004 9:45:03 AM

Hi GH! I really don't want to play more to go backwards and I don't have the time to investigate the reasons. I only know I'm not inclined to continue to see my score decline due to new submissions.

                          
#14628  by Citizen Weyrleader - 7/20/2004 9:55:31 AM

apparently I'm better off not submitting at all...at least I won't loose points!


Greldon, the problem is the sliding window of degrading points for the Metaverse score. There are bunch of windows that are 30 days wide, and at somepoint, move to 70 days wide. As games move into and out of those windows, the average for that window changes and it is these changes that affect the score. As you move down the windows, your score decays. You would eventually loose points by not submitting, as the Meta does an auto decay every 30 days. When you submit, it does an immediate decay calculation, hence the drop when submitting a game after a long absense.

                            
#14629  by Citizen _Attila_ - 7/20/2004 9:56:23 AM

Hello Greldon! Its nice to hear from you. And its unfortunete that this is happening...
If you are not around we will try to ask around whats goping on and could it be fixed!

@ Naqmir: Its your turn mate there we go i hope its ok, its been first time i ever zipped any files... http://www.diplomats-empire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1969#1969 Link

@ GH: Thank you very much mate!

                        
#14630  by Citizen Genghis Hank - 7/20/2004 10:01:10 AM

@ GH: Thank you very much mate!


Glad I could help!

                          
#14631  by Citizen _Attila_ - 7/20/2004 10:12:32 AM

Glad I could help!


me , too

Ok Lads see ya all ... thats a problem, i am having a problem connecting or actually seeing my screen, because apparently i dont sleep anymore at night and my mom is triing to put me to sleep at night so she takes the cable of my monitor, CRAP!! she pretty pi$$ed of at me at 5am this morning. So i i'll try to find this cable and stick around in the mornings...



GH, I am still triing to get a positive attitude here!

Ok guys see ya i am off to work.

                        
#14632  by Citizen Greldon - 7/20/2004 10:35:02 AM

I lost over 122K on my first submission back, and more than 40K since! I really don't care what their logic is, it's just not right. I loose less points by not playing. It seems my reward for playing is a slap in the face...no thanks! Stardock obviously doesn't want players to return after an absence.

                          
#14633  by Citizen Greldon - 7/20/2004 10:38:53 AM

I'll try a couple more games but if I loose points again I think I'll retire...I don't need the aggrivation, especially at this point in time.
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#14634  by Diplomat Peace Phoenix - 7/20/2004 10:48:43 AM

I loose less points by not playing.

Unless a metaverse wide recalc occurs.

The thing to remember is that metaverse rewards steadyness. So yes, if you take a break, you must pay it.

I haven't the time to explain the detail, and I am not sure that you want it. But you should remark that even if your submission on the 07/12/2004 earned you a big drop, you score have globally increased from this date.


                          
#14635  by Citizen Genghis Hank - 7/20/2004 10:52:37 AM

Greldon, I know it seems tough. It's not really the "reward" for playing, it's the "penality" for having no games for a 30 day + block. Eventually you would loose the points anyway, but since it recalcs when you submit, you see it then. Just adds insult to injury, if you ask me.

Anyway, I think that if you just played through it for a month, the biggest bites would work their way out, and you would return to your more normal progression. I would need to ask PP to run his spreadsheet to confirm. Jackie Jackie was having similar problems a month or two ago, and he seems to have returned to going back up the charts.

What was your line again? We must endeavor to persevere? Hang in there Greldon. I missed you, and I don't want to see the meta chase you away now that you managed to make it back.




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#14636  by Citizen Evil Druid - 7/20/2004 11:52:45 AM

she takes the cable of my monitor, CRAP!! she pretty pi$$ed of at me at 5am this morning. So i i'll try to find this cable and stick around in the mornings...


Don't want the wife reading this idea

I'll try a couple more games but if I loose points again I think I'll retire...I don't need the aggrivation, especially at this point in time.


No kidding. I can see the 1st big dump of points. Hopefully this will turn around. We need are champion knight.


                          
#14637  by Citizen Weyrleader - 7/20/2004 12:09:30 PM

I loose less points by not playing


In the longer term you will lose all your points by not playing. I agree with you that the current scoring methods sucks, but there has been a lot of complaining about, along the lines of what you have experienced, and of course, the more you play the less you get for each game in the day - not a real encouragement there either.

                            
#14638  by Citizen quiksilverhg - 7/20/2004 1:23:23 PM

Boom!

1st page even closer now, not too long hopefully.

Rough luck Greldon, I know I just had a big break and I'm probably going to take a hit when that block works its way completely into a 30 day block, but it should only be temporary, I hope you stick around, you've set a good goal for me to join the elite guardians on page one.

                      
#14639  by Citizen quiksilverhg - 7/20/2004 1:25:19 PM

GH Fleet admiral next game, congrats in advance, sorry to have passed you again, we'll meet up on page one sooner or later though.

                      
#14640  by Citizen Evil Druid - 7/20/2004 1:56:26 PM

GH Fleet admiral next game,


No reason not to start the party now. Way to go GH

                          
#14641  by Veteran Grand_Admiral_Thrawn - 7/20/2004 2:07:20 PM

No reason not to start the party now.


Indeed.

Bravo GH!

                      
#14642  by Citizen Weyrleader - 7/20/2004 3:11:47 PM

Fleet Admiral Way to go, GH. Fleet Admirals belong on page 1, come on up.

                            
#14643  by Citizen Genghis Hank - 7/20/2004 3:59:10 PM

Umm...

Thanks everyone! But I made Pawn Broker at least a month ago at the 80 game mark...

Check out this link for more info http://guardians.galciv.org/faqrank.html Link

Way to go, GH. Fleet Admirals belong on page 1, come on up.


All in good time

                          
#14644  by Citizen Genghis Hank - 7/20/2004 4:02:49 PM

GH Fleet admiral next game, congrats in advance, sorry to have passed you again, we'll meet up on page one sooner or later though.


No apologies needed quik! You and Attila give 'em heck on page 1! I'll be banging my way there slowly but surely.

BTW, I notice that Jaws is now page 2. He was #1 in the 'verse when I started. I never thought I would reach the top one hundred, and now I'm less than 10 spots away from passing him.

                          
#14645  by Citizen Evil Druid - 7/20/2004 6:10:54 PM

I never thought I would reach the top one hundred,


Well there is a reason to party then
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#14646  by Citizen Evil Druid - 7/20/2004 6:51:22 PM

I haven't the time to explain the detail, and I am not sure that you want it. But you should remark that even if your submission on the 07/12/2004 earned you a big drop, you score have globally increased from this date.


PP If he averages a game a day now, will his score continue to slide or go up over the next week or so. His score is higher then the big 1st dump.

                          
#14647  by Citizen Greldon - 7/20/2004 10:36:29 PM

The active Knights of the Conclave have reached a consensus regarding the new Knights. It is my honor to announce the following overlords as new Knights of the Conclave:

1. Naqmir
2. Weyrleader
3. Exalted Druid
4. Genghis Hank
5. Attila

Congrats to you all, and welcome to the Conclave!

So...who wants to be Prime Minister? We're looking for volunteers.

For Honor and Justice!


                          
#14648  by Citizen Evil Druid - 7/20/2004 10:56:46 PM

For honor and Justice I am so honored.



                          
#14649  by Citizen Evil Druid - 7/20/2004 11:00:25 PM

Congrat brother Knights Naqmir, Weyr, GH and Attila

                          
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