#1025
by Citizen dsjdsj - 12/20/2004 11:15:22 PM
Thaks J.T.Qwerk, so the ai traded most of the techs? I rarely trade at all and almost only with the altarians. So that's how everyone got the megaphasers so early, before I even got battle axes? I only research the medical, industrial and info techs that can boost my research and economy and I chose technologists and with ultra research bonus. For some reason I'm still behind in tech by very much. And If you trade, dosen't that make you not unique when everyone has all of your techs? And how can the AI build so fast? when I built my first constructor they had 4, they got their economic capital long before me and they had battle crusiers to attack me when I barely got 1 battle axe. don't those things take like 30 turns to build? thanks.
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Hint: trade techs to AI for freighters that are close to AI worlds in order to start trades routes sooner.
How do you know where freighters or enemy worlds are?
Easy, use the diplomacy screen. If you right click on the planets or ships in the AI's list, it will show their locations on a pop up minimap!
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I put my spending at 50 percent and left the social military and research spending bars alone. A few years later into the game I've got 30000 in my treasury |
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You shouldn't have so much money in your treasury. Instead:
- put spending at 100% as long as your treasury isn't négative
- be sure to change governement. Imperial isn't very nice for productivity
- build improvements on your planets that increase research or production (anything that have a cost lesser than 3 is OK)
- build and enhance starbase on galactic resource.
- research tech that increase productivity via governement (diplomacy, star democray, star federation) or increase research
The rule of thumb: if you are making lots of money with 100% spending, then you aren't making good use of your BC.
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Yup Starfleet Manuals have a lot of useful info.
Good advice Peace Phoenix.
BTW
Red Alert!!! Red Alert!!! Red Alert!!!
Locking phasers! Fire! Romul...er...Korx destroyed!
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I rarely trade at all and almost only with the altarians. |
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Wrong choice: having a tradable tech (that is not associated with Trad goods or wonder you want to build, or associated with diplomacy bonus) and entering diplomatic round allow you to get lots of techs, if no one knows your techs: each AI will offer you different tech for yours. And you can use tech gained from exchange in exchange with other AI. The snow ball effect with some techs can be pretty amazing
An important thing is to keep the AI at an equally level of tech, to ensure they can fight each other and that this fight will last
And If you trade, dosen't that make you not unique when everyone has all of your techs? |
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Think about advantage in diplomatic term and not military: as long as you have tech they don't know (having not research it yet or gained through trade, spying, tribute, invasion), you have some diplomatic bone for
- making the AI happier (giving tech)
- luring the AI into declaring war against another AI (tech against declaration of war). Divide and conquer is allways nice
- obtaining new techs.
It isn't very productive to research a tech that other allready know ...
And how can the AI build so fast? |
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They surely use 100% spending rate whenever possible, and adjust repartition between military, social and tech.
There is a basic rule I have found in all 4x games:
- expand like a mad first (ie 100% spending rate and 100% military for colony ships every 3 or 4 turns)
- ensure a solid growth (ie 100% social spending for soil improvement, habitat, banking and entertainment)
- research tech that allow you to fullfill this strategy and keep advantage over the AI
- ensure that money enter correctly (avoiding war, creating trade routes ...)
Once you have entered a building phase, you have rarely time for creating new colonies.
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By the way I am hosting a lot of your Mods |
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If this remark is directed at me, I found it strange: I have submitted only one mod (sneaky diplomats) and helped with another (research.inc)
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#1035
by Citizen dsjdsj - 12/21/2004 11:25:51 AM
And does the ai cheat or get advantages over you? I always wanted to ask this. And is the reason that I don't trade techs made me less advanced than the AI? and if I trade them, I will have no unique techs left and I want to have unique advantages. If I traded genetic mapping, dosen't that make the AI research faster?
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And is the reason that I don't trade techs made me less advanced than the AI? |
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Yes. Why research tech when you can get them by exchange?
If I traded genetic mapping, dosen't that make the AI research faster? |
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If I remember correctly, there is a Wonder associated with this tech. In this case you don't want to trade it until you have build the wonder.
It is just a tradeoff: is the tech you exchange compensated by those you gained? You may want to get tech that allow a new governement, increase your speed, gain license of Trade Goods ...
It needs just experience to know which tech can be safely exchange and when. Tech with diplomacy bonus shouldn't be exchanged to the AI since they give you to have advantages in diplomatic exchange.
and if I trade them, I will have no unique techs left and I want to have unique advantages |
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There is only 2 thing in this game that can give you unique advantage: Wonder and Trade Goods, if you keep to yourself the associated license. Techs will always be researched sooner or later. So use the advantage when you have it (ie have a tech others don't have) and before loosing it (ie when AI research it and exchange between them)
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Ah yes...we heard the sound of that rusty port nacelle on your old warp clunker from orbit...your approach to the Special Forces Fortress has been monitored closely and all WILL be ready for your arrival...
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#1039
by Citizen dsjdsj - 12/21/2004 5:55:21 PM
but now the AI researches as fast as I am.
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#1040
by Citizen dsjdsj - 12/21/2004 7:16:22 PM
How can influence the sector that we both started on? we both have 1 planet and what makes them better than me? Does the ai cheat? And now I'm researching as fast as the ai is but all of my research are in the peaceful techs and how can I be safe from aggressive races?
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Don't rely on the excuse "the AI cheat" if you are behind them. There are just more efficient and you are learning the game. The AI allready knows how to play it
Just a question, have you remark that in diplomacy screen, color help you to find how to adjust your trades?
how can I be safe from aggressive races |
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Brutal force isn't the only thing in Galciv. Diplomacy can help you to alter the galaxy: I play at maso without building any offensive ship. And I am not dragged into wars.
Look at the relation (F5) screen. If some are below neutral, they might attack you. You may need to offer spontaneous tribute. Trade routes help to increase relation on the long term. And if the AI want war, try to make them fighting each other.
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Couple of games more and I shall be in the top 200 list!!!!
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When is the Mace site coming back? |
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What do you exactly mean?
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I don't know how to do one of those fancy links |
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Put the complete URL and this includes the beginning with the protocol (http ...)
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#1047
by Citizen dsjdsj - 12/22/2004 12:27:07 PM
Just a question, have you remark that in diplomacy screen, color help you to find how to adjust your trades? |
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what's that?
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