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Do you still think GalCiv 1 is fun even with GalCiv II out?
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1- Yes
2- No


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#1375  by Diplomat Blue_Steel - 2/22/2005 2:12:00 AM

hopefully we won't.... we want to make it to the top 5 then 3 then2 then 1st


                          
#1376  by Citizen Wild Wombat - 2/22/2005 5:08:24 PM

Hey guys, it is not my fault that I have split personality


I don't think this is news to anyone... (joke!)

                          
#1377  by Citizen Disciple777 - 2/22/2005 5:51:11 PM



                        
#1378  by Diplomat Blue_Steel - 2/22/2005 6:31:47 PM

Wombat, To cut a long story short... there is nothing wrong in leaving your old account (inactive) (Retired) in SF and joining a new empire with a new Active player...

My only gripe is as described in this MSG and others I've replied to around the Forums... You know me..(or should by now) and that I'm always doing what in my opinion is best for the game... I speak my opinions openly and often used to get flamed for them...

And those ppl with Active multiple persona's should expect and accept the fact that Stardock HAS the Regulation in the registration screen still.. and CAN if they so desire do something about it to stop cheats... as i say I personally don't know of anyone doing it yet... but it is possible and Stardock and those players are the only ones who'll EVER KNOW that they are doing it...So its totally up to Stardock as to what they'll allow or disallow... and now they can't say that they haven't been warned about it when the judgment hammer comes down... Stardock may end up combining their scores or simply deleting them as they have done with players found cheating in the past

BTW which Empire were you thinking of Joining... you'd be more than welcome in StarFleet



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#1379  by Citizen Disciple777 - 2/22/2005 10:27:32 PM

I want to ask something JT, if me having 2 players is something that you don't agree with, let me know and I will quit this empire and I will create my own empire where having 2 players is not a problem.

                        
#1380  by Citizen Disciple777 - 2/22/2005 10:55:22 PM

I think that to avoid inconvenience I am going to retire one of my twins from this empire and place it on another empire.

                        
#1381  by Citizen Krazyhorse - 2/22/2005 10:56:51 PM

Due to all this mess about 2 players one guy, I am resigning my comission and I will begin my own path!!!!

                    
#1382  by Diplomat Blue_Steel - 2/23/2005 12:46:07 AM

ok... thanks Krazyhorse... it'll be for vthe best till things get sorted out... I have reported this delelemour to Stardock and am awaiting their ruling... Its nothing personal...

I think you in the name of Starfleet for doing this as I can't be suggesting one thing and then having it happen in the empire of which i am emperor...

Krazyhorse is welcome to stay till srtardock have made up their mind though... as other empires have similar situations..

I'll abide from what ever ruling that Stardock announces..

Sorry for this inconvience...

PS: i hope to have some ruling one way or another from stardock soon...

I thankyou for for your understanding...

and it saddens me that it has come to this...


                          
#1383  by Citizen Evil Druid - 2/23/2005 4:13:40 AM

JT there are only 60 people left submitting at all. The way the scoring works if you slow down your pace, you go backwards. If a player wants to keep playing at a slower pace, its the only thing he can do.

So many people have retired because they had to slow or stop because of RL issues and when they come back every game they play hurts them. I'd rather keep people in the community then worry about the stupid scores.

If someone actualy does abuse it then lets deal with it then.

I told you that Carielf gave the exact instruction on how to create the new player in the general forum. They can hardly come back and say there is something wrong with it. Not in the real world any way.

                          
#1384  by Diplomat Blue_Steel - 2/23/2005 4:48:58 AM

I have asked you when and where .... please locate it and show me...

I cotacted Cari a about 12-24 hours ago... she said that she'd get back to me soon ...

I'd rather my empire come in 6th ore where ever we get to than come in higher than we do by cheating... we shall wait till we hear from stardock before we make a firm decision... as leaser of StarFleet its my duty to uphold the prime directives (as laid down by StarDock) and lead the way so that others may follow

If others can live with them selves by flaunting what StarDock decrees then thats up to them... I myself shall not.. no matter how few players are in the metaverse...

(and no ... i'm not stating that anyone is cheating... Only StarDock can state that... I hold no grudge's either ...

I leace up to ppls concionses... and let everyone decide for themselves

                          
#1385  by Diplomat Blue_Steel - 2/23/2005 4:53:38 AM

I have not even suggested to any players to leave empires in which they have multiple ACTIVE players... It was mayito888's owen decision to withdraw his own twin in the metaverse

I'm ALWAYS thinking and ACTING in the best interests of the game... because I love it and want it to be arounds for time to come and then some

I shall be active in Both Metaverses when CalCiv2 comes out... that is IF stardock keep this metaverse going.. I shan't leave till its shut down...



                          
#1386  by Citizen PassingBye - 2/23/2005 5:42:06 AM

I'm ALWAYS thinking and ACTING in the best interests of the game


Unfortunatley, it it your interpretation of what is in the best interst of the game. Some might differ with your priorities or even the actions of what is best for the game. Accept what ED says. He is not lying to you about what CariElf said. Demanding proof is saying that "I am right, not you! Prove it!"

           
#1387  by Diplomat Blue_Steel - 2/23/2005 6:13:23 AM

I resent the tone of your message...

I simply can't find the bloody message... and have asked on 2 occasions now if someone could kindly sho me where it is...

After all i've told everyone where to find what i'm saying in the regulations...

As i've clearly stated that Stardock is looking into the regulations and I'll accept what they comeback with...

What are you afraid of... scared that you might loose one or more of your active players... or be asked to move them so that only one active player of them are in the same empire.. or they may even decide to allow multiple players in the same empire...there are many options that are at their disgression... NOT yours or mine .... to inforce or not to AS THEY SEE FIT...

I can assure you that there WILL be ppl who WILL take advantage of ANY loopholes in ANY RULES in ANY game NOT JUST in GALCIV



                          
#1388  by Veteran Cosmic Fox - 2/23/2005 11:28:42 AM

Mayito Twin left to help out another Empire? How is that right JT? I do not agree with any of this at all. If someone wants to ID so be it. As long as they are not outright exploiting it as some are whats the problem?

I think Mayito should come back to Star Fleet with his alter ego, or disolve it. He began that one in this empire and joined a larger one. This just is not right and neither are the attitudes being made in this thread.

Galciv is a lot of fun until someone begins to start problems. JT never said ANYONE should quit anything. He stated his opinions and DOES have the best interest of the game in mind.

Lets all just drop the silly comments and move on. Mayito should rejoin this empire as well. JT you should have told him not to leave. There was nothing wrong with him having 2 accts before so whats the problem now? I have seen this thread where Carielf explained how to get a second acct. She pointed me to it when I had problems a long time ago with my submitting games. It is there just buried under all the msgs and this site is horrible to find any messages unless you know the keyword to locate it.
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#1389  by Diplomat Blue_Steel - 2/23/2005 12:36:19 PM

Mayito888 is still in Starfleet...
It was Matito's twin which left..

If players want it Cari has said that they can have their scores combines... so no submitted games are lost

I never made or even suggested that his Twin leave...

I had even suggested that they stayed till Cari got back with Stardocks answers....

Please read this http://www.galciv.com/forum.asp?BID=GF&id=200562 Link in it is Stardocs reply to this debate...

Dam it all.. I knew i'd cop flack about all of this and gain more enemys in the metaverse which is why I never brought it up before...

I'm the only one who had the strength and conviction to point it out the way I did and spelled it all out... I'm Posative that I wasn't the only one out of 60 od players who knew it either.. I mean to say it was Dam obvous to me a loooong time ago...





                          
#1390  by Citizen Evil Druid - 2/23/2005 1:58:56 PM

Yes if you were in the same empire submitting actively to both ID's. No one was doing that as far as we know,or atleast not enough to effect our little world, and now that the decaying is working properly I cannot see it as an advantage at all. Peoples retired players were dropping like rocks.

I even recall Cari helping LW getting his clone straightened out. When he wanted to retire the original LW and start over.

My score now goes up and down like a yoyo because of the scoring system. I can see why someone would want to start over at slower pace just to stay part of the community.

If players want it Cari has said that they can have their scores combines... so no submitted games are lost


Pb/weyr wrote her weeks ago asking for that on his accounts.

You should be able to retire a character and start over somehow.



                          
#1391  by Citizen Wild Wombat - 2/23/2005 4:26:46 PM

I just checked the general Forum - CariElf has responded and it seems the Stardock position is that you DONT start multiple players...sigh...if you cant actually retire an old player, it makes life difficult. I started playing nearly two years ago and now have a lot of baggage - I would be no value to another empire in a scoring sense....

                          
#1392  by Citizen Evil Druid - 2/23/2005 4:34:14 PM

Yes, that's the problem. It's no fun if playing does not benifit you. You should be able to retire and start up fresh.

                          
#1393  by Citizen Disciple777 - 2/23/2005 4:40:18 PM

I think I am going to retire, and wait for GC-II to come to light and will start playing the other version. It seems really cool. Here is the link http://www.galciv2.com/Forums.aspx Link

                        
#1394  by Diplomat Peace Phoenix - 2/23/2005 4:43:06 PM

He began that one in this empire and joined a larger one.

Are you sure? I think KrazyHorse was member of Foudation before going to Starfleet.


                          
#1395  by Citizen Disciple777 - 2/23/2005 4:51:42 PM

I started in the Foundation, and now I have created the Third Foundation Empire, only for those who have split personality and other mental issues. Was fun with you guys, but all these issues about having two players is cheating is too much.

                        
#1396  by Citizen Cetane - 2/23/2005 6:17:59 PM

but all these issues about having two players is cheating is too much.


AGREED

                            
#1397  by Citizen Evil Druid - 2/23/2005 7:05:40 PM

If someone bought a second version of the game they could still do it and nobody would ever know.
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#1398  by Citizen PassingBye - 2/23/2005 7:21:59 PM

I resent the tone of your message...


Sorry, no tone intended - purly neutral. But it is not good to call into question the integrity of people who have shown themselves to have the highest of integrity. so he did not search back through a year or more of posting in who know what thread - no search will find it. Just accept that CariElf said what ED said she said. In your posting, CariElf said she said it.

           
#1399  by Citizen PassingBye - 2/23/2005 7:43:10 PM

If players want it Cari has said that they can have their scores combines... so no submitted games are lost


Actually, CariElf did not say that. She said the followoing:

I will have to talk to Pat about checking during registration to see if the serial number is already being used and if we can combine current multiple accounts.


So, she did not say they could be, but that she would check to see if they could. Perhaps they can and perhaps thay can't.

           
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