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Incomming Message... from StarFleet
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| **puff****puff**evil roy passed the pipe of peace, paused, panted, and passed out... |
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In a time like this, that shouldnt be funny but it seems sort of silly
        
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#1427
by Citizen PassingBye - 2/24/2005 8:43:00 PM
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Actually, you can. There is nothing that stops you from submitting from both characters. Stardock and said you shouldn't but that haven't yet prohibited someone from doing it. And, if that person were to keep his two personas quiet, no one would probably ever notice. Unless, of course, someone is so paranoid about it that they investigate every play in the 'verse to make sure that are following the "rules."
  
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#1429
by Citizen PassingBye - 2/24/2005 8:50:27 PM
DF,
I can understand your frustration. You are working had for the Empire you love to play in. I only offer the following advice, please take it in the love that it is given: Bitterness is the only poisone one takes hoping to kill someone else.
Let it go, enjoy the game, build your empire.
cheers
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Like you all see you are right and I am wrong, so for that reason my apologies, but as I stated before this game is over for me, I will wait for GC-II to play the newest version.
    
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So my apologies to you DF and JT, have been fun until this issue where everyone have a different vision, I particularly don't see anything wrong with having 2 players, everything depends in what you want to do, I was trying to have some fun having a twin evil brother smoker of sacred grass and krazy as a wild horse. That was the whole idea. But now is no longer fun. So like I said before goodbye until the new game comes out.
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I am having an attitude? You are my friend and instead of seeing what I am talking about you just took sides, you as my friend should have remained impartial, you never has seen me judging you or any one else about this game, my only problem is that is not fair to accuse one person for trying to help his empire to go up, I already explained why I had two players, I also explained that I asked Carielf to merge both of them, what else you want me to do? I really cannot understand why you are so upset with me. Put yourself in my shoes and tell me how would you feel. I don't care about rules that are not existent, if Stardock says this is not allowed then fine, but meanwhile I don't care about rules that don't exist, when I saw Carielf post where she said that will not be allowed anymore, I inmediately sent her an e-mail and asked her to merge my accounts to solve this problem, but what I got back, you my friend and TJ attacking me because I don't agree with your opinion, hello everyone is allowed to have his own point of view, mine is that I didn't see anything wrong as long as you play the games, now if you use the same game for both players then we have a problem, but so far that I know no one has done that, for me was exciting to have my two players going head to head against each other, it was fun, and I think that you all have lost the sight on this issue, this is a game to HAVE FUN that is the goal of all this whole foum, game, society, friendship and empires, TO HAVE FUN, not to get all upset about how many players you have or you don't have, just play the game for FUN that is the whole issue, but when this game becomes a witch hunt against those players who have 2 or more aliases, or againts a empire because is at the top of the list way ahead of everyone, then it is no longer fun.
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DF and JT you are my friends and I will not let this game or any disagreement we have about how it should be run interfere with our friendship, so if I stepped on some toes, I apologize, I am cool now so I see your points, mine were very selfish and silly to be more precise, so I am backj on the empire and hopefully like JT said all this mess will be fixed. So we are back in six please, so to make me happy submit some games  
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Um...I feel slightly responsible for opening this can of worms in the first place - I assure you that under no circumnstances did I believe anyone was using aliases for cheating or boosting empire scores. I just wanted an opinion/ruling based on being an old player with lots of game baggage wanting to know if starting afresh was possible/acceptable to the gaming group.
My take on CariElf's post is that starting a new alias at present is OK, the presumption being that you're leaving behind an old one (retired) in order to start a new one. Cool.
Desert Fox: absolutely understandable that gaming in a fun supportive community is an excellent stress relief, and when THAT seems hard and Real Life stuffs up too - recipe for disaster. This is still a haven - dust ups here have a tendency to settle really quickly, so stay in touch. 
Mayito: when people read Post #1422 where Mayito says he is leaving forever, I guess most newer players didn't realise that this was actually the 1422nd time Mayito has threatened to leave and never return  The man is a FireCracker! I just see that he's happily back in the fold, and from the time stamps I calculate this took only 26mins 35 secs - I can assure everyone this is a new GalCiv record and I congratulate Mayito!!! 
JT: You made a good point, and Stardock got it. I dont see any time pressure on the fix, as we all understand the situation now and no doubt they will build it in as they design the GCII Meta.
Blessings to all. 
   
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#1441
by Citizen Chipperoo - 2/25/2005 12:59:58 AM
Gentlemen, I am a bit reticent about posting the following, but do so ony because I am MORE hesitant not to. If my post engenders any ill will, kindly e-mail me directly,  Email, as I do not wish to cause a continuance of this discussion beyond this post! That having been said, here is my take on this issue...
JT brought up an issue that has obviously been troubling him for some time. And a valid issue it is! If exploitation of this "loophole" was truly going on and we KNEW it, most of us would be extremely PO'd. However, none of us know of any such instance currently going on, and yet the "C" word (cheat) was left dangling in the air with no direct attachment to any individual. Naturally, anyone with multiple accounts would certainly notice this and, in fact, some (Mayito, AND others) took it as a "hint".
Now before you start replying to this message without reading it in its entirety, let me state that I know that JT and DF NEVER accused anyone of cheating, but merely of the possibility of it occuring under the current rules as they are now. Fair enough, I see the possibility as well!
Mayito, in his defence, did what he thought was the honorable thing to do...remove himself from the empire who's leader brought this issue up. KUDO'S to you sir! Unfortunately, this action was interpreted as a slight to the empire, and the ensuing discussions rapidly spiralled downward.
I am not a member of this empire, but I know how much it means to JT, and now I know how much it means to DF. Mayito, obviously, equally cares hence his rejoining.
I would hope that you three gents could discuss this matter privately so that ALL of you could could be in accord once more.
All that I have written in this post is based on my "recall" of previous posts in this thread and the one on the main forum board. I have no relationship with any party here aside from forum interaction in the metaverse. I just hate to see ill feelings amongst any, and as I see it this is really just a case of misunderstanding one anothers intentions/actions.
I hope ya'all can resolve this rather than sweeping it under the proverbial rug.
-Chip-
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I know, this post will be off topic, but I need to speak.
| Mayito: when people read Post #1422 where Mayito says he is leaving forever, I guess most newer players didn't realise that this was actually the 1422nd time Mayito has threatened to leave and never return The man is a FireCracker! I just see that he's happily back in the fold, and from the time stamps I calculate this took only 26mins 35 secs - I can assure everyone this is a new GalCiv record and I congratulate Mayito!!! |
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In order for everyone here to understand why cheating is a so hot topic for Mayito, you should know that:
- the current account is not his first
- in June, Stardock has conduct a metaverse audit ( Link). With the result of their audit, they decided that 2 people where guilty of cheating.
- Mayito's first account was one of them, the other was Lothmorg The Black, top player of the metaverse at the time that managed to submit multiple 60 K 1.13 gigatnic maso win
- Only Mayito tries to defend himself in the thread. You can spot easily his posts since they have only his title (Veteran) witout any name behind them
Now about Mayito's reactions in various threads, any old members knows that Mayito want to have fun with Role Playing, even if others disagree. You may find threads he has started in page 2 or 3 of the empire forum. His Roleplaying habits have started some flamewars if I remember well. And he has been member in many empires as well as starting some.
One key point to remember with Mayito is that he is here for fun. You may not have the same definition than him about fun, but you all should keep in mind that he is here for fun. If he doesn't think that he will experience fun here, he will leave. Even if he came back in the future (in hours, days or months).
BTW, I personnaly think that Mayito was very responsible to decide to have Krazy leaving Starfleet. It was easier for JT Qwerk to hold his view since he wouldn't be accused of saying one thing and doing another.
I also think that DF has a bit overreacted, since as he states: | Yes this is only a GAME but it is something I take very seriously. I need this game and Space Empires to keep sane. |
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This attitude can be very dangerous on any forum. And Mayito could tell you this since sometimes, RL problems had him making posts that have degenerated.
Sure DF you need this game to keep sane. I can understand it. But don't take it too seriously, please, on Galciv forums.
And to avoid any mistake: I just want to explain some things and express my point of view. I don't intend to attack anyone. If you have seen attacks in my post, please forgive me.
   
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Thanks JT. I have added a new proposal to the thread in the main forum
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This way both would be possible. Multiple accounts for split personalities like Mayito  and a fair competition of empires.
The only problem I see that it would cost significant effort by Stardock.
Maybe you can have a look at it and use your contacts to Stardock to ask them what they thing about it.
  
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Oh my goodness thats a the largest cluster of page-long posts I've seen in days. Btw neotechgaming.com is back and so is the third issue of the metaverse pulse news! go ahead and read it !!!!!
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#1448
by Veteran Cosmic Fox - 2/26/2005 8:59:49 PM
| I am having an attitude? You are my friend and instead of seeing what I am talking about you just took sides, you as my friend should have remained impartial, you never has seen me judging you or any one else about this game, my only problem is that is not fair to accuse one person for trying to help his empire to go up, I already explained why I had two players, I also explained that I asked Carielf to merge both of them, what else you want me to do? |
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Just for the records, I was not taking sides I was merely telling you that YOU were taking everything being said wrong. Look at your posts, I did not say you were doing anything wrong, (besides taking what was said wrong ) and neither did anyone else. That is the attitude I was referring to!
Yes we are all friends but you were being so bullheaded I had enough. Like I said, this is my only good time playing galciv and the Empire. This sort of crap spoils it for me.  This is why I was upset no other reason, certainly NONE that you listed!
Okay it seems we are all looking at this topic in a better light. JT is a good guy and NEVER, like myself, tries to start problems. We both are misunderstood quite often. No harm no foul, I did over react with the "Have a nice life" stuff.
Long live the Empire(s) and the good people who regularly play in them!
Peace Phoenix, your comments are always welcomed! Though you really should know the meaning of that statement before you make remarks. I do not mean it as it sounds, Mayito is my best buddy, he and I go way back all know all his history. He knows mine, I am very sick, with that said, this game, the site etc are all that keep me going, motivates me, helps me keep positive and not be negative which leads to being sicker. You see I did not mean as you thought!
You meant well I know but I wanted to clarify being you pointed out my statement. Also, the whole point here is that Mayito took what was being said wrong. Thats it in a nut shell.
Btw, do you keep a freaking diary of the entire website?? 
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Sure. But someone else could have reacted in the same way
| Btw, do you keep a freaking diary of the entire website?? |
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No. But some things leave a greater mark in my memories than others
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Makes no sense to me and all of this is stressing me major, yet nothing has changed. Your still having an attitude. Okay take care then Mayito, wish it could be different but I have enough problems without having one with a game I love. 
