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#150  by Senator Drengin - 11/4/2004 5:52:31 PM

 



                        
#151  by Citizen Embird - 11/4/2004 6:00:03 PM

Glad to see things are just as intellectual as ever.

Is the IBH web site down?
I get redirected to another forum.
One that I cannot log on to.
I have clicked the " I forgot my password" gizmo.
Still waiting for a new password.

                      
#152  by Senator Drengin - 11/4/2004 6:18:29 PM

Is the IBH web site down?

Hi Marquesa

Yep looks like we lost the database for the embassy forum. We have begun construction of the New Embassy but are waiting for the domain hosts to see if they can reconstruct the database for us to copy over (not an easy task). more to follow on this. VOT is keeping everyone informed via the Foreign Embassy whilst we build/rebuild.

Hows the outback?



                        
#153  by Citizen Embird - 11/4/2004 6:34:45 PM

Hows the outback?


Feeling safer by the hour.

With that war monger Bush and his evil band back in power, I think things are about to get a whole lot more dangerous.

                      
#154  by Senator Drengin - 11/4/2004 6:44:25 PM

Looks like we may all be moving to the outback

                        
#155  by Citizen PassingBye - 11/4/2004 7:41:25 PM

Looks like we may all be moving to the outback


I think the outback would be a wonderful place to be. I like semiarid areas. I lived in New Mexico for 15 year and you could see 100 miles because of very little air polution.

On the other hand, my father always said when someone he did not like got elected: "We can live with anyone until the next election." In a democracy, you make do with what the people voted for. In this case it was a majority of the people. I realize the the European newpapers are asking why so many people can be wrong. Wrong question. Question should be "Why am I not in sync with the majority?"

           
#156  by Citizen Embird - 11/4/2004 7:41:45 PM

Looks like we may all be moving to the outback


Americans in the outback?

It wouldn't be safe then.

                      
#157  by Citizen PassingBye - 11/4/2004 7:44:45 PM

It wouldn't be safe then.




I promise not to bring my AK47!

           
#158  by Citizen PassingBye - 11/4/2004 7:46:02 PM

Question should be "Why am I not in sync with the majority?"


By the way, there may be good reasons you are not in sync. Just understand why.

           
#159  by Citizen Cetane - 11/4/2004 7:54:42 PM

With that war monger Bush and his evil band back in power


Our differences are what make us strong. I don't care for all of Bush's policies but he does what he says. And if your country is invaded or it's leadership starts thinking you are not worthy and killing your ethnic backgorund you should feel safe knowing that we will be there, no matter your personnel opinion of our president.

                            
#160  by Citizen Embird - 11/4/2004 8:01:40 PM

you should feel safe knowing that we will be there


You mean like in WW2?

Where America was quite willing to see Australia invaded and did nothing.
Only when America was attacked did they see Australia as a useful base.

                      
#161  by Citizen Embird - 11/4/2004 8:06:31 PM

I realize the the European newpapers are asking why so many people can be wrong


It's not just European newspapers.
It's newspapers around the World.
I think you are talking about the wrong majority.

                      
#162  by Citizen Cetane - 11/4/2004 8:19:00 PM

We and our allies fought for the survival of the world from a delusional maniac and an evil tyrant. There was nothing we could do to stop Hitler from overrunning most of Europe, and yes we did step in up several notches when the war was brought to our land. Consider it a lesson in history that us Americans have learned. Now before an enemy has the opportunity, we strike first. All are fortunate for us to have a great leader who is not afraid to do this. Even for those who think he and those who voted for him are warmongers. btw I am in the US Navy and of course that shades my opinion greatly. I have been to your country several times. Twice to Sydney and once to Perth(?). Lovely country. I did not mean to incite a written arguement with you. It is a difference of opinion, and I respect yours.

                            
#163  by Citizen Cetane - 11/4/2004 8:20:47 PM

I think you are talking about the wrong majority


We talk about the only majority that matters to us, ours.

                            
#164  by Citizen Embird - 11/4/2004 8:36:25 PM

We talk about the only majority that matters to us, ours.


Exactly.

That is the problem.

Fuels Chief.
My husband was a pilot in the RAAF. A civiliian now.
He fought in the first Gulf War.
He and the other RAAF pilots refused American orders to bomb civillian targets.
Contrary to the videos relesed, most of the targets were civillian.
They also refused to use cluster bombs, given to them by the Americans.

By the way. I suspect that, by now, Bush is responsible for the deaths of more Iraqis than Sadam.

                      
#165  by Citizen Embird - 11/4/2004 8:37:39 PM

We are never going to agree.
I have to go now.

                      
#166  by Citizen PassingBye - 11/4/2004 8:55:33 PM

Bush is responsible for the deaths of more Iraqis than Sadam


Pure BS. No proof, no statistics, nothing but a beliefe that Bush can do nothing right. With that bias, everything he does is wrong. No war is withoug casualties, either innocent or warrented. War is hell. It would be nice (and I suspect naive) to think that one could reason with those who opress their people like Sadam did. The current debacle of the food for oil program shows that europe, china, and russia all were circumventing the UN resolutions about trading with Iraq so that they could profit and Sadam could get weapons material insteat of food for his people.



           
#167  by Citizen Evil Druid - 11/4/2004 9:08:03 PM

Cannot argue with heresay. It is mostly the Iraqi with car booms and sucide bombs killing Iraqi's. Collateral damage happens in war. Never have the weapons been more accurate at avoiding it or the people using them more caring to avoid it. No matter how good your systems it can never be 100% in war

                          
#168  by Citizen Cetane - 11/5/2004 12:27:06 AM

We are never going to agree.


I agree

Pure BS


Agreed again

it can never be 100% in war


It's a shame that it has to come to war. We could advance our civilization much quicker with out it. It seemw that the free world understands this concept but can not agree on how to get the best end result.


                            
#169  by Diplomat Peace Phoenix - 11/5/2004 2:34:34 AM

It is me or is the backup embassy down?

                          
#170  by Citizen Evil Druid - 11/5/2004 3:08:33 AM

I just got in Peace.

                          
#171  by Diplomat Peace Phoenix - 11/5/2004 3:19:43 AM

I guess I haven't correctly checked the URL and was trying to access the Embassy when thinking to try to access the backup Embassy
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#172  by Citizen Chipperoo - 11/5/2004 4:28:16 AM

My 2,000,000 BC on President Bush and War (WWII and Iraq).

WARNING: I am NOT a believer in Politically correct talk. I speak my mind as clearly as I am able to. I am opinionated (as are we all), but am willing to listen to all feedback AND to cogitate on it!!! That having been said...commence rant, errr opinion.

I am an American, and I have no idea of the international opinion of our country's leader (and frankly...no offence intended, I don't care). I get most of my news information from Fox cable news, (the least biased organization I know of that is available to me), and my daily newspaper.

I believe that regardless of WMD's or not, Saddam Hussien (responsible for the deaths of ten's of thousands of people, not including his stupid war on Iran) had to be ousted. If that opinion is seen as arrogant, presumptive, or "against the soveriegnty of a nation", I will refer you to post #162 in this forum by Fuels Chief.

While I can't explain the actions of 65 years ago (I was not alive then), I believe FDR was quoted as saying "I HATE WAR" PRIOR to the attack on Pearl Harbor. (Not sure about the timing on that, but for whatever reason that is sticking out in my head.) We went to war only when the war came to us. But when it did, we saw it through to conclusion. I am amazed to see that anyone has a grudge against the US of A from something dating to WWII...

You mean like in WW2?

Where America was quite willing to see Australia invaded and did nothing.
Only when America was attacked did they see Australia as a useful base.


Would you have preferred that we never entered the war?

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#173  by Citizen cactoblasta - 11/5/2004 6:18:19 AM

I doubt she was irritated because the USA entered the war because it was attacked, but that Americans believe they have a right to claim that they are good and noble defenders of the innocent. The US record in most of the world is more or less appalling - supporting dictators, crushing popular movements, assassinating democratically elected rulers, undermining allied governments, subverting the course of elections etc etc.

Any rational study of US foreign policy and the theory that guides it suggests the US acts solely in its national interest; to claim that acting in one's self-interest is a sign of nobility is somewhat contrary and more than a little infuriating.

I'm sure Marquesa would have preferred that the US enter the war because it felt it was the right thing to do, not because there was no other realistic choice.

But enough of the politics. How is everyone these days? It's been a while since I was last here. What's the address for the alternative forums? The current ones seem to be busted.
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#174  by Diplomat Peace Phoenix - 11/5/2004 6:24:54 AM

What's the address for the alternative forums?

http://diplomats.galciv.org/forum. Link There is also a link to it on http://www.diplomats-empire.com Link

And the squirrel mail seems to have problems:

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