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Question about diplomacy screen.
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by Citizen CrusherX7 - 4/20/2005 4:02:22 AM

In the diplomacy screen, if you press the button in the center (it has a picture of a flag) it lists three things, one of which is 'Diplomatic Evaluation'. It only seems to say 'They think we're practically gods.' and one other message, something about if we say this isn't the robot, they'll nod their heads and say this isn't the robot.

Has anyone gotten any other result, like something negative? And does this indicate there is some sort of bonus or penalty to diplomacy at the time?

                
#1  by Citizen Galactic Knight - 4/20/2005 4:16:37 AM

as I could experience so far (being fresh flesh to GalCiv) these indicators show how your civ is reputated in their eyes and whether they take you serious or not. Depends also on the difficulty level and diplomatic skills.

Guess it reflects the startup-settings as well, seems they´re quite dump - however they love you like hell hehe... I would suggest: Ally with them, these are your personal slaves

         
#2  by Diplomat Peace Phoenix - 4/20/2005 5:55:14 AM

The diplomatic evaluation explain you if your are at advantage or at disadvantage on the bargain table. It is based on the diplomatic bonus of each side. The bonus depends of AI setting (more intelligent AI have greater bonus), the political party, the picks choosen, the bonus associated with some trade goods as well as tech that improve diplomacy.

BTW, have you watched the color of the proposed bargain to know if it will be accepted or not?
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#3  by Citizen CrusherX7 - 4/20/2005 9:22:44 PM

In my current game, I've got all the AI's set to Bright, and despite lagging behind them in most areas, I still get 'They think we're practically gods', which I'm pretty sure is because I go heavy with diplomacy picks.

And yes, I've noticed that they'll accept deals that are green and won't accept ones listed in yellow. I try and get every last credit and tech I can in trades.

                
#4  by Diplomat Peace Phoenix - 4/21/2005 3:18:07 AM

I still get 'They think we're practically gods', which I'm pretty sure is because I go heavy with diplomacy picks.

Your are right. There is only one level higher in diplomacy: the jedi mind trick

If you want negative evaluation, start a game without taking any diplomacy picks, and don't research tech that give diplo bonus (you still need universal translator tech to be able to speak with them)

You can check their diplomacy bonus if you have invested enough money in spying

And here is what can be found in the english.str file about the various levels of diplomacy ratings:
[Diplomatic_0] \n They think we are a bunch of barbarians. \n
[Diplomatic_1] \n They think they are much more sophisticated than us. \n
[Diplomatic_2] \n They have a similar outlook on life but tend to think we're a bit socially primitive.\n
[Diplomatic_3] \n They can relate to our way of life. \n
[Diplomatic_4] \n They admire our way of life. \n
[Diplomatic_5] \n They think we're practically gods. \n
[Diplomatic_6] \n Let me put it like this, if you say 'these aren't the droids you're looking for' they'll just repeat that. Whatever we say is great as far as they're concerned. \n



                          
#5  by Citizen Galactic Knight - 4/21/2005 4:59:32 AM



[Diplomatic_0] \n They think we are a bunch of barbarians. \n[Diplomatic_1] \n They think they are much more sophisticated than us. \n[Diplomatic_2] \n They have a similar outlook on life but tend to think we're a bit socially primitive.\n[Diplomatic_3] \n They can relate to our way of life. \n[Diplomatic_4] \n They admire our way of life. \n[Diplomatic_5] \n They think we're practically gods. \n[Diplomatic_6] \n Let me put it like this, if you say 'these aren't the droids you're looking for' they'll just repeat that. Whatever we say is great as far as they're concerned. \n



Thanks that´s really helpful !!!

         
#6  by Citizen Vanir - 4/21/2005 2:43:31 PM

I've always wondered what the "Military Evaluation" section refers to. It doesn't appear to be related to military strength, but something that is set for each race at the beginning of the game and remains the same throughout.

      
#7  by Citizen CrusherX7 - 4/21/2005 6:30:06 PM

In the picks screen, it says that picking bravery not only helps win ground battles, it can impress militaristic civs. "Military Evaluation" probably indicates whether or not having bravery will make an effect on the other civ.

                
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