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probably considering all the other bonuses in teh game stack.
And actually i think they only affect the ships in orbit, not the ground troops, but i could be wrong.
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#2
by Citizen WasabeXX - 5/19/2003 2:15:21 PM
All of these ONLY effect ground combat, and don't effect ships in any way. And yes, they all stack.
However, I never build any because I think their upkeep cost is way too high to bother with.
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#3
by Citizen Starvald - 5/19/2003 3:25:25 PM
Are you sure about that?
I always thought they affect the ships in orbit, as when I park ships there as defense, their values go up.... But I've never checked to see if that was the case, just assumed that was what was happening.
So.... do ships in orbit get a fixed bonus to their values?
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#4
by Citizen Franco fx - 5/19/2003 6:53:40 PM
planetary defense affects ships in orbit, not sure about the others
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so they really affect both ground and ships 
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by Citizen WasabeXX - 5/20/2003 5:58:41 PM
no, no, no. 
Planetary Defenses ONLY effect ground troops, NOT ships in orbit. However, ships in orbit always get a bonus to their attack value, I think it's like a 60% bonus.
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#8
by Citizen WasabeXX - 5/20/2003 6:02:53 PM
I'm 100% sure about the planetary defenses only effecting ground troops.
However, there are projects that increase the stats of your ships, they are the shipyard, advanced quality control, etc (ones that give a starship bonus). They effect the attack and defense stats of any ships built on that planet, and the bonus stays with the ship no matter where it goes. However, if any other ship goes into orbit around a planet with those shipyard bonus, they aren't benifitted by it, it's only for ships actually created at that planet.
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I'm not sure which of these affect Orbit or Ground troops, but I have noticed a couple invasions of key enemy worlds where the defense was ridiculously strong.
I thought the enemy had some kind of weird tech until the next planet I invaded was a cakewalk.
       
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They all just effect ground combat. There are no structures that provide ships with direct bonuses for being in orbit. The only way a plantary improvement can aid ships is the various quality improvements- Shipyard, Advanced Quality Control, Starship Foundary -and this bonus only applies to a ship ONCE, when it is built.
If you do want to provide your ships with attack/defense bonuses, build a starbase and add Protection Fields, Battlestations, Fusion Cannons, Micro-Fighters, and related military modules.
  
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by Citizen Joben - 5/23/2003 3:52:18 PM
Its kind of strange...there are tons of starbase moduals taht increase attack but only Protection Fields seems to increase defence.  unless there is something realy high tech.
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Regarding #17:
"Shipyards do not raise hit points - they add to the AF & DF of vessels constructed there after the improvement is completed"
To make matters even more confusing, you do not know when looking at a ship what part of the AF/DF comes from those improvements.
So you could have 2 ships of the same class somewhere, where one of them is 12/6/3 and the other is 4/5/3, simply due to when and where the ships were built.
 
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Actually, AFAIK *when* you build the ship doesn't really matter. So if you build a ship on a planet and later build a shipyard on that planet then the ship will get the new bonus. One more reason for concentrating your ship building on a handful of specialized planets, and to select these planets as early in the game as possible.
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Gert (#19) are you absolutely certain? That will make me completely rethink my military strategy.
That clearly demands complete centralization of military shipbuilting activity.
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#21
by Citizen Vynd - 6/2/2003 1:27:09 PM
wonka, I agree with Gert. Social improvements that give bonuses to ships affect all ships constructed on that planet, even those built *before* the social improvement was completed. Totally counter-intuitive, I know, but true. I remember being totally surprised by this fact when I saw a post from Frogboy explaining it.
As for the original question: I believe that the bonuses stack but it is difficult to confirm without getting one of your planets invaded. As many have said, the bonuses in question apply only to ground combat. Ships do get bonuses when they are orbitting a planet but that comes from the very fact that they are orbitting. No social improvements are necessary.
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Guess nobody watched the final episode of Voyager where Admiral Janeway brought technology from the future which was downloaded into the ship.
Suddenly the ship had armour technology which could withstand direct hits from Borg Battlecubes and had weapons which could take down Borg cubes with a single hit. Talk about technology transfers to old ships
    
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